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I find it interesting to read about these type of academic conflicts, wether in epidemiology, statistics (frequentist v bayesian), or economics- I would think it would be good to avoid "incestous amplification". Which I find in my chosen discipline, sociology, to be the sad case. My sociology professors tended to be more "hand waving" than my economics professors ;) I never have quite understood why sociologists or some other social scientists want to avoid debate, avoid math quite often, can we get away from stupid linear models yet!!! Sorry to ramble...if I could stomach all the calculus classes I'd probably pursue economics, I think the debates are good, the question of premises etc. Instead of sociologists trying to water down other disciplines, we'd do better to clean house. I'd post that comment on a sociology website, but I'd just get "hand waved" off, followed by some nihilistic diatribe.

You epitomise the world of economists. Theres a perfectly valid debate going on in the real world, but your response neither addresses it logically, nor does it even recognise the existence of a problem. Thats precisely the intellectual shortfall the article is addressing. Modern economists and their refusal to accept whats happening in the world for fear they have nothing productive to say about it. Im forever grateful I chose to withdraw from my Ivy league PhD economics program, for fear the world might end, and economists wont realise until theres data supporting it.

To Zahir:

Sounds as though we're both less than happy with our chosen disciplines.
But sometimes you need to vent, and venting often lacks the "logic" you seem to find my response lacking.
Although I don't think I epitomise "the world of economists", apparently my own diatribe is more representative of a sociologist, IMHO.

But rather than leave economics why not stay and fight for what you believe in through economics- relish the chance to be a heretic!

It's been my anecdotal experience that economists often prefer to analyze rather than be an activist, but why not be the economist who is also an activist?

Anyways, I hope your in a happier place now ;)

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