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Rail systems are as different as the metropolitan areas they served. You can read here about
BART and how it replaced the Key System in the Northern California.

There's nothing in the sources cited to suggest that metros or states or even the national government couldn't keep the passenger railroads afloat, or improve them, at public cost. It's not as if auto companies paid for the interstate highway system. We did. Somehow none of the comparisons take into account the huge subsidies.

The more interesting question is not whether anyone killed the railroad, but whether that was a good thing. Two different questions. I'm curious how the destruction of the rail system has allowed for unbridled sprawl over the past fifty years (not a good thing).

It should be noted that even "if" only the charge that GM helped speed along the destruction of mass transit in the U.S. that would be a very serious charge. It shows how market forces are manipulated and distorted by the "winners". It provides a rather signifigant rebuttal
to the idea of pure free market and the idiotic presuppositions of libertarian philosophy.

One might remember that while rail companies were losing money , so were bus companies. Though they had the help of a ruthless billion dollar corporation backing them.

What people costantly seem to fail to grasp is automobiles are mass transit. They move masses of people. This is proven every day on highways in every major metropolis. In fact, automobiles beat out other forms of mass transit because of their efficiency, not because of any malevolent plot. Let's say there is a delay on a subway track, caused let's say by a derailment. A group of people traveling in another train are delayed until the blockage is removed because there is no other route for them to take. Trains and buses must by their nature follow a set pattern, with only some variance allowed. If they don't, the entire system doesn't work. Now let's say there is a delay on a major highway, caused by a truck rolling over. All the individual drivers behind this blockage can utilize alternate routes of their choosing to get around this blockage.
I find it especially amusing that those on the left attack large corporations like General Motors. Do they not realize that if it weren't for Big Business, we wouldn't have Big Labor, the breeding ground of most leftist thought in this nation?

I thought Goodyear was involved too. Interesting post, I had seen that doc in my urban sociolgy class. There does seem to be an anti-corporate vibe in the pro-mass-transit crowd. Would be typical to stigmatize cars with a corporation- I am waiting for something a little more demonizing like comparing it to tobacco ;) It is curious that they always want subways and trains as the mode for the city when, forgive me I am not an economist, but it seems that more, small, cleaner burning buses would be cheaper and more adpatable to changes in daily traffic, as well as short and near term changes in the city at large.

The piece by Martha J. Bianco is fully fallacious. Do some digging and check her sources.
You will be shocked by the plagerism contained within...

The piece by Martha J. Bianco is fully fallacious. Do some digging and check her sources.
You will be shocked by the plagerism contained within...

> The piece by Martha J. Bianco is fully fallacious....

I did do "some checking" and that leads to the conclusion that the "piece by David Tipton" is is the thing which is "fully fallacious". I was indeed "shocked" by the attack on Bianco through nothing but slur and inudendo!

"In fact, automobiles beat out other forms of mass transit because of their efficiency"

Very funny.

Yes, they're more efficient for low-volume, low-capacity routes.

They're far, far, far, far less efficient for high-volume routes. Japan has an official grid with volume on one axis, speed on the other, and the appropriate mode in the middle. It's no surprise that cars are only at the lowest-volume end of the grid. Buses satisfy medium-volume and relatively low-speed. Trams fill in high-volume and low-speed. Trains fill the medium-volume or high-volume, high-speed slots.

Of course, when autos became popular, there was simply less volume of traffic total, because the population was so much smaller.

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